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		<title>By: All in a days work&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58289</link>
		<dc:creator>All in a days work&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] hAccessibility - hCalendar&#8217;s Original Sin The creators of Microformats strayed from their accessible, semantic intentions when they extended the abbr-design-pattern to the datetime-design-pattern. This idea, though paved with good intentions, was a workaround for a browser bug and, like many othe [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hAccessibility &#8211; hCalendar&#8217;s Original Sin The creators of Microformats strayed from their accessible, semantic intentions when they extended the abbr-design-pattern to the datetime-design-pattern. This idea, though paved with good intentions, was a workaround for a browser bug and, like many othe [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Microformats &#38; the govt media release [beta] &#124; NPSC Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58282</link>
		<dc:creator>Microformats &#38; the govt media release [beta] &#124; NPSC Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After reading this post from the Web Standards Group on the accessibility issues around abbreviations in microformats, I have reworked the code for the most recent e-government hRelease (on new search for newzealand.govt.nz). The dateline now looks like this: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After reading this post from the Web Standards Group on the accessibility issues around abbreviations in microformats, I have reworked the code for the most recent e-government hRelease (on new search for newzealand.govt.nz). The dateline now looks like this: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Mabbett</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58244</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Mabbett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussion of this article on the microformat IRC channel, viewable at &lt;a href=&quot;http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-07-05#T175801&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-07-05#T175801&lt;/a&gt; (and ending with the comment time-stamped [18:27:54]) is relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussion of this article on the microformat IRC channel, viewable at <a href="http://rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-07-05#T175801" rel="nofollow">rbach.priv.at/Microformats-IRC/2007-07-05#T175801</a> (and ending with the comment time-stamped [18:27:54]) is relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: tercume</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58239</link>
		<dc:creator>tercume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my knowledge, the WAI hasn’t released an official statement on this, but some of the ATF members are current or previous members of the WAI Working Groups, and we all follow the discussion lists when possible. As for your comment about RDF and Dublin Core, I partially agree, but this isn’t the forum. The arguments against it are made better elsewhere, such as the Microformats discussion list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my knowledge, the WAI hasn’t released an official statement on this, but some of the ATF members are current or previous members of the WAI Working Groups, and we all follow the discussion lists when possible. As for your comment about RDF and Dublin Core, I partially agree, but this isn’t the forum. The arguments against it are made better elsewhere, such as the Microformats discussion list.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58218</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 07:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, this information was really helpful. I have been learning html for a few weeks now and find this site very useful. Thanks to this page I now know how to abbreviate. Is this the most simple way or is there an easier way when you have more than 50 abbreviations in a single page? Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, this information was really helpful. I have been learning html for a few weeks now and find this site very useful. Thanks to this page I now know how to abbreviate. Is this the most simple way or is there an easier way when you have more than 50 abbreviations in a single page? Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58097</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have explained that the &quot;hcalendar&quot; value is something extra that we add in our office for lists of events on our &quot;calendar of events&quot; pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have explained that the &#8220;hcalendar&#8221; value is something extra that we add in our office for lists of events on our &#8220;calendar of events&#8221; pages.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-58096</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is what I will be including in a new markup guide I&#039;m creating for my office (line wraps marked with -&gt;):

&lt;code&gt;
&lt;ol class=&quot;hcalendar&quot;&gt;
&lt;li class=&quot;vevent&quot;&gt;Tuesday, June 5, 2007, Noon&ndash;1:30 p.m. -&gt;
 &lt;abbr class=&quot;dtstart&quot; title=&quot;20070605T1200-0500&quot;&gt;(0700 -&gt;
 GMT&ndash;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;abbr class=&quot;dtend&quot; title=&quot;20070606T1330-0500&quot;&gt; -&gt;
 0830 GMT)&lt;/abbr&gt;
	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li class=&quot;summary&quot;&gt;Get-Together&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li class=&quot;location&quot;&gt;402B Jesse Hall&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li class=&quot;description&quot;&gt;Bring a friend!&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;/code&gt;

I&#039;m thinking that screen readers that read the ISO info out plain will still verbalize it, but at least it will be precluded by comprehensible information. I am no expert, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is what I will be including in a new markup guide I&#8217;m creating for my office (line wraps marked with -&gt;):</p>
<p><code><br />
&lt;ol class="hcalendar"&gt;<br />
&lt;li class="vevent"&gt;Tuesday, June 5, 2007, Noon&amp;ndash;1:30 p.m. -&gt;<br />
 &lt;abbr class="dtstart" title="20070605T1200-0500"&gt;(0700 -&gt;<br />
 GMT&amp;ndash;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;abbr class="dtend" title="20070606T1330-0500"&gt; -&gt;<br />
 0830 GMT)&lt;/abbr&gt;<br />
	&lt;ul&gt;<br />
	&lt;li class="summary"&gt;Get-Together&lt;/li&gt;<br />
	&lt;li class="location"&gt;402B Jesse Hall&lt;/li&gt;<br />
	&lt;li class="description"&gt;Bring a friend!&lt;/li&gt;<br />
	&lt;/ul&gt;<br />
&lt;/li&gt;<br />
&lt;/ol&gt;<br />
</code></p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking that screen readers that read the ISO info out plain will still verbalize it, but at least it will be precluded by comprehensible information. I am no expert, though.</p>
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		<title>By: enternet</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-57979</link>
		<dc:creator>enternet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry
&lt;span class=&quot;dtstart&quot; style=&quot;display:none&quot;&gt;20070312T1700-06&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry<br />
&lt;span class=&#8221;dtstart&#8221; style=&#8221;display:none&#8221;&gt;20070312T1700-06&lt;/span&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: enternet</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-57978</link>
		<dc:creator>enternet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 14:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe 20070312T1700-06 ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe 20070312T1700-06 ?</p>
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		<title>By: jcraig</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/comment-page-2/#comment-57974</link>
		<dc:creator>jcraig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Olle, re-read the first paragraph in the section titled, &quot;What’s the Catch?&quot; and view the screen shots of the browser bugs in the version without the extra span.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Olle, re-read the first paragraph in the section titled, &#8220;What’s the Catch?&#8221; and view the screen shots of the browser bugs in the version without the extra span.</p>
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