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	<title>Comments on: The good, the bad, and the ugly &#8211; iPhone edition</title>
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		<title>By: Swetlana Maßat</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58959</link>
		<dc:creator>Swetlana Maßat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went down to the iPhone launch today, down on Regent Street in London. Would there be a queue snaking round the block? Would there be thousands of people clamouring to get in? Um, no. Check out the video of the guy in the front of the queue, as of midday today. And for added fun, click over the jump and check out the guy who was at the front of the queue at the New York launch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went down to the iPhone launch today, down on Regent Street in London. Would there be a queue snaking round the block? Would there be thousands of people clamouring to get in? Um, no. Check out the video of the guy in the front of the queue, as of midday today. And for added fun, click over the jump and check out the guy who was at the front of the queue at the New York launch</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58882</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mthink alot of designers should r4alize that there ae more blackberry users than iPhone users but the problem is the blackberry users don&#039;t check out sites to much. I think RIm will be pushing the design of the blackberry even more in the future so by combining iPhone concerns and blackberry issues you have a huge user base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mthink alot of designers should r4alize that there ae more blackberry users than iPhone users but the problem is the blackberry users don&#8217;t check out sites to much. I think RIm will be pushing the design of the blackberry even more in the future so by combining iPhone concerns and blackberry issues you have a huge user base.</p>
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		<title>By: Paveo</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58711</link>
		<dc:creator>Paveo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this useful post, very lucky, I&#039;ve got a iPhone for testing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this useful post, very lucky, I&#8217;ve got a iPhone for testing.</p>
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		<title>By: NBA</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58599</link>
		<dc:creator>NBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip. Now I’d best go and work up a Wii version of my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip. Now I’d best go and work up a Wii version of my site.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Standards</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58595</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Standards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 10:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any news on accessibility features from OS in the iPhone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any news on accessibility features from OS in the iPhone?</p>
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		<title>By: Sherlock Asimov</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58591</link>
		<dc:creator>Sherlock Asimov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all those sites with iPhone portals are not designed using any proprietary technology, but instead are built on top of web standards with some of the elements assigned with unique attribute for supporting Google Maps, contacts info…

the CSS property that starts with -webkit- are just there for time being to provide support of some CSS3 properties. Designer can simply add corresponding CSS3 properties, and everything will work in other browsers that supports those properties. So the design is not locked in.

So how could this be cooked up as IE4 all over again. This is not even remotely close to that kind of history deliberately created by Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all those sites with iPhone portals are not designed using any proprietary technology, but instead are built on top of web standards with some of the elements assigned with unique attribute for supporting Google Maps, contacts info…</p>
<p>the CSS property that starts with -webkit- are just there for time being to provide support of some CSS3 properties. Designer can simply add corresponding CSS3 properties, and everything will work in other browsers that supports those properties. So the design is not locked in.</p>
<p>So how could this be cooked up as IE4 all over again. This is not even remotely close to that kind of history deliberately created by Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58589</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also bought the IPhone and like the Safari browser.

&quot;While mobile Safari performs brilliantly when it comes to CSS rendering, it does have a few problems.&quot;

That&#039;s the problem - and I don&#039;t know why they didn&#039;t fixed it. By testing the phone you normally see the problem. Maybe a bugfix will be available soon :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also bought the IPhone and like the Safari browser.</p>
<p>&#8220;While mobile Safari performs brilliantly when it comes to CSS rendering, it does have a few problems.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem &#8211; and I don&#8217;t know why they didn&#8217;t fixed it. By testing the phone you normally see the problem. Maybe a bugfix will be available soon :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rene Glembotzky</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58543</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Glembotzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, Safari is one of the best mobile browsers -not only on iphone- but unfortunately the eventhandling brings it back to a boring standard like all other mobile browsers i&#039;ve tested...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, Safari is one of the best mobile browsers -not only on iphone- but unfortunately the eventhandling brings it back to a boring standard like all other mobile browsers i&#8217;ve tested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Event Horizon of D-Dz.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Embrace</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58537</link>
		<dc:creator>Event Horizon of D-Dz.Net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Embrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 05:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was in discussion with a friend during the after-soccer-let&#8217;s-eat-drink-talk-and-look-at-chics session that I am anticipating more iPhone-like devices to be surging in the market in the next five years or so; which in turn could redefine Internet usage by consumers. I opined that it would be a clever decision to also develop websites to be &#8220;mobile-device friendly&#8221;. We could start off with the freely available Opera Mini as a testbed for web contents and presentational medium and not tarry too much with iPhone&#8217;s Safari yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was in discussion with a friend during the after-soccer-let&#8217;s-eat-drink-talk-and-look-at-chics session that I am anticipating more iPhone-like devices to be surging in the market in the next five years or so; which in turn could redefine Internet usage by consumers. I opined that it would be a clever decision to also develop websites to be &#8220;mobile-device friendly&#8221;. We could start off with the freely available Opera Mini as a testbed for web contents and presentational medium and not tarry too much with iPhone&#8217;s Safari yet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.webstandards.org/2007/08/22/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-iphone-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-58518</link>
		<dc:creator>John Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>youssef spencer:
&quot;what do you mean that the iphone isnt good and all that crap do you even have it ?&quot;

It is widely regarded as a splendid idea to read an article before you comment on it, as opposed to after. Which, if you truly believe it says the iPhone isn&#039;t good, you probably haven&#039;t.

Feel free to return with your insightful comments once you have grasped what the article is actually about.

Thank you, and have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>youssef spencer:<br />
&#8220;what do you mean that the iphone isnt good and all that crap do you even have it ?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is widely regarded as a splendid idea to read an article before you comment on it, as opposed to after. Which, if you truly believe it says the iPhone isn&#8217;t good, you probably haven&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Feel free to return with your insightful comments once you have grasped what the article is actually about.</p>
<p>Thank you, and have a nice day.</p>
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