Comments on: DOM Scripting: A Web Standard

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:22:14 +0000

Nice touch if everyone got together one more time in a pub to discuss and maybe plan another project.

By: Keith Bowes

Keith Bowes — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:19:53 +0000

Yeah, JavaScript and DOM have come a long way. I remember the old DHTML days, especially Netscape 4′s awful model. Evangelism still needs to be done, however; we need consistency between implementations.

By: Sander Aarts

Sander Aarts — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:58:01 +0000

Da’ ge bedáánkt zèt da wittû! (thanks!)

By: Jeremy Keith

Jeremy Keith — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:36:11 +0000

Michiel van der Blonk wrote:

Isn’t it time for a standard API for JavaScript libraries?

I certainly think that would be a good idea and at the @media Ajax conference last November, I know that John Resig and Alex Russell were discussing this. If enough of us keeping nudging them (and other library authors), maybe this idea would get some legs.

Mark Wales wrote:

A task-force is perhaps not needed, but there still needs to be a general education about not using inline JavaScript so that behaviour is separate from structure.

I couldn’t agree more. And is this is a discussion that occurs at the intersection of JavaScript and markup, I think it’s one that will be better tackled by the WaSP as a whole rather than a JavaScript-only task force.

By: Mark Wales

Mark Wales — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:39:38 +0000

A task-force is perhaps not needed, but there still needs to be a general education about not using inline JavaScript so that behaviour is separate from structure. I started reading PPK’s book on JavaScript yesterday and it makes many important points. Yet when you go to websites there is almost no JavaScripting examples that don’t use inline event handling. As a result the one JavaScript on my website is still using inline event handling, because until I finish reading PPK’s book I can’t work out how to do it properly.

By: Michiel van der Blonk

Michiel van der Blonk — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:17:54 +0000

Isn’t it time for a standard API for JavaScript libraries? It would make life so much easier if UI elements and the complete ‘windowing’ system could be made a standard. We could start with bridge tools, and eventually all library writers would comply. Look at all the common elements: Event, Window, Document, Class, Element, Drag, Slider, Tooltip, Ajax, Date, Calendar…

By: pauldwaite

pauldwaite — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:55:16 +0000

I’m curious to know what Blair Ballmer would look like.

On second thoughts, maybe I don’t want to know.