Comments on: Microsoft rethinks IE8′s default behavior http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Davinci http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-71438 Davinci Thu, 29 May 2008 20:11:16 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-71438 I will only believe it when IE renders and handles a button-tag correctly and doesn’t try to save xml local. I will only believe it when IE renders and handles a button-tag correctly and doesn’t try to save xml local.

]]> By: Heimann Michael http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-71424 Heimann Michael Wed, 28 May 2008 22:58:21 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-71424 Wow that sounds like it’s making some huge progress. Maybe they've fixed all annoying bugs. Does anybody know wheter thy build it 4 Windows XP or only for Vista. Will it be possible to get this for Mac OS? Wow that sounds like it’s making some huge progress. Maybe they’ve fixed all annoying bugs.
Does anybody know wheter thy build it 4 Windows XP or only for Vista. Will it be possible to get this for Mac OS?

]]> By: Adaptiv Media http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-71316 Adaptiv Media Sat, 17 May 2008 06:34:06 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-71316 I really cannot wait for Microsoft to start competing with Firefox again. I've just downloaded the Beta for IE8 and am expecting some <strong>significant improvement</strong> on IE7. All I noticed from IE6 to IE7 was a cosmetic difference that was probably made to fit in with Vista's look & feel. Better client-side scripting support is what i'm looking for primarily. Widespread CSS support between all new browsers would be great but that would mean there is lesser competition between browsers. If Silverlight takes off and IE8 has made significant improvements, it seems that for <strong>web designers and developers</strong> like myself, we may have to once again endorse <strong>Internet Explorer</strong> over <strong>Firefox</strong>. I'll let you guys know what I think of IE8. I really cannot wait for Microsoft to start competing with Firefox again. I’ve just downloaded the Beta for IE8 and am expecting some significant improvement on IE7. All I noticed from IE6 to IE7 was a cosmetic difference that was probably made to fit in with Vista’s look & feel. Better client-side scripting support is what i’m looking for primarily. Widespread CSS support between all new browsers would be great but that would mean there is lesser competition between browsers. If Silverlight takes off and IE8 has made significant improvements, it seems that for web designers and developers like myself, we may have to once again endorse Internet Explorer over Firefox. I’ll let you guys know what I think of IE8.

]]> By: Best Of March 2008 - juliomarroquin.com http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-68407 Best Of March 2008 - juliomarroquin.com Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:15:54 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-68407 [...] Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 releasedMicrosoft released the first beta of Internet Explorer 8. Among new features the integration of pseudo-classes :after and :before. IE8 improves rendering of content authored to various web standards in standards mode. The new version features an enhanced and standardized DOM that brings it in line with implementations in other browsers. Additionally, IE8 has dramatically enhanced AJAX support with features like DOM: Storage, Cross Document Messaging (XDM) and the Selectors APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for web-developers. [...] [...] Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 releasedMicrosoft released the first beta of Internet Explorer 8. Among new features the integration of pseudo-classes :after and :before. IE8 improves rendering of content authored to various web standards in standards mode. The new version features an enhanced and standardized DOM that brings it in line with implementations in other browsers. Additionally, IE8 has dramatically enhanced AJAX support with features like DOM: Storage, Cross Document Messaging (XDM) and the Selectors APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for web-developers. [...]

]]> By: Best Of March 2008 | Best of the Month | Smashing Magazine http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-68363 Best Of March 2008 | Best of the Month | Smashing Magazine Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:12:27 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-68363 [...] Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 releasedMicrosoft released the first beta of Internet Explorer 8. Among new features the integration of pseudo-classes :after and :before. IE8 improves rendering of content authored to various web standards in standards mode. The new version features an enhanced and standardized DOM that brings it in line with implementations in other browsers. Additionally, IE8 has dramatically enhanced AJAX support with features like DOM: Storage, Cross Document Messaging (XDM) and the Selectors APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for web-developers. [...] [...] Internet Explorer 8 Beta 1 releasedMicrosoft released the first beta of Internet Explorer 8. Among new features the integration of pseudo-classes :after and :before. IE8 improves rendering of content authored to various web standards in standards mode. The new version features an enhanced and standardized DOM that brings it in line with implementations in other browsers. Additionally, IE8 has dramatically enhanced AJAX support with features like DOM: Storage, Cross Document Messaging (XDM) and the Selectors APIs. And (hurrah, hurrah): IE8 will use Standards mode by default. Details, comments, analysis and ideas. And, finally, IE8 Readiness Toolkit for web-developers. [...]

]]> By: Lawk Salih http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-66278 Lawk Salih Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:13:21 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-66278 MS has no choice but to listen. MS has no choice but to listen.

]]> By: Alastair Revell http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-63786 Alastair Revell Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:34:35 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-63786 I think that this is a really important announcement from Microsoft and will certainly promote a more standards compliant web, which is sorely needed. We have recently conducted some research into just how many web sites adhere to technical standards and legal requirements. The findings are fairly grim! Alastair Revell Managing Consultant <a href="http://www.rrs.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Revell Research Systems</a> I think that this is a really important announcement from Microsoft and will certainly promote a more standards compliant web, which is sorely needed.

We have recently conducted some research into just how many web sites adhere to technical standards and legal requirements. The findings are fairly grim!

Alastair Revell
Managing Consultant
Revell Research Systems

]]> By: hmkoltz http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-63131 hmkoltz Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:18:30 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-63131 Considering the widespread penetration of Windows and related applications, wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft helped by joining in on the Outreach and Education aspect of standards and informed its own consumers about the changes? MS could do so with software or application updates and helpful reminders or tips in its applications. MS could also offer up resources and pointers about where to find more information about Web standards. It would make standards advocacy work a lot easier, and adoption of standards move ahead. Considering the widespread penetration of Windows and related applications, wouldn’t it be nice if Microsoft helped by joining in on the Outreach and Education aspect of standards and informed its own consumers about the changes?

MS could do so with software or application updates and helpful reminders or tips in its applications. MS could also offer up resources and pointers about where to find more information about Web standards.

It would make standards advocacy work a lot easier, and adoption of standards move ahead.

]]> By: The Teacher http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-63101 The Teacher Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:51:43 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-63101 Hi, I just read the announcement on the blog. It doesn't seem to say anything about the support for XHTML. Many people suggest that if the browser is strictly going to follow the standards (HTML 4.01 Strict), it becomes secondary that whether it will truly support XHTML or not, because forcing the browsers to follow the standards was one of the most important goals of creating XHTML. However, I believe that if IE 8 doesn't implement XHTML, there is no guarantee that it will never again move away from the web standards in the future. I kinda feel that XHTML can lock MS with the standards and that is why they have tried to avoid true implementation of XHTML. Hi,

I just read the announcement on the blog. It doesn’t seem to say anything about the support for XHTML.

Many people suggest that if the browser is strictly going to follow the standards (HTML 4.01 Strict), it becomes secondary that whether it will truly support XHTML or not, because forcing the browsers to follow the standards was one of the most important goals of creating XHTML.

However, I believe that if IE 8 doesn’t implement XHTML, there is no guarantee that it will never again move away from the web standards in the future. I kinda feel that XHTML can lock MS with the standards and that is why they have tried to avoid true implementation of XHTML.

]]> By: Robin http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/comment-page-1/#comment-63093 Robin Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:02:58 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/2008/03/03/microsoft-rethinks-ie8s-default-behavior/#comment-63093 Isofarro - you've somehow transcribed my mind. Isofarro – you’ve somehow transcribed my mind.

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