Comments on: IE9 looks really promising http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/ Working together for standards Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:19:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dumsnål http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76804 Dumsnål Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:42:12 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76804 I'm Looking forward to try IE9. From the facts about IE9 it looks really interesting that it supports HTML5 and x.264 videos. I’m Looking forward to try IE9.

From the facts about IE9 it looks really interesting that it supports HTML5 and x.264 videos.

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By: JoelMMCC http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76775 JoelMMCC Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:41:23 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76775 To Rudolph: As I understand it, IE6 is the last version that can run on Windows 2000 and earlier (including all non-HAL Windows OSes, from 3.0x through ME). IE7 and up require at least Windows XP. Windows 2000 and earlier are past End-of-Life, and by its name Windows 2000 is a decade old (a geological epoch, if not era, in computer technology terms). That said, its Service Pack 4 version was one of the best, most stable versions of Windows ever released up until then and for some time thereafter. Windows 98 Second Edition was likewise the best of the non-HAL Windows. Remember than Windows XP got a well-deserved bad rap until Service Pack 2 came out (about as bad as Vista had even after its Service Packs), and many non-techies think that that still applies. There are thus quite a few people still using these older OSes (and as a result being a serious danger to us all, as their computers are way too easily zombified if they hook up to the Internet). They simply cannot upgrade to IE7, let alone IE9, without also upgrading their OS and in many cases buying a whole new computer. And no, making a version of IE9 that can work on those older OSes is out of the question. There are core capabilities of the newer OSes that IE 7 and up absolutely require in order to work, which are not present on nor addable to the older OSes. Windows 7 is a wonderful OS (especially for being a pre-SP), but too many got burned with previous pre-SP versions of Windows, and are likely waiting for at least Service Pack 1 before upgrading, perhaps even from Windows 2000 (or even NT4 SP6 in some cases!). On another subject: I heard a rumor that IE9 will not be using the Trident layout engine at all, but that it’s a whole new engine even more secure than OP. Is this true, or are they saving that for IE10 or some future product? To Rudolph: As I understand it, IE6 is the last version that can run on Windows 2000 and earlier (including all non-HAL Windows OSes, from 3.0x through ME). IE7 and up require at least Windows XP.

Windows 2000 and earlier are past End-of-Life, and by its name Windows 2000 is a decade old (a geological epoch, if not era, in computer technology terms). That said, its Service Pack 4 version was one of the best, most stable versions of Windows ever released up until then and for some time thereafter. Windows 98 Second Edition was likewise the best of the non-HAL Windows.

Remember than Windows XP got a well-deserved bad rap until Service Pack 2 came out (about as bad as Vista had even after its Service Packs), and many non-techies think that that still applies. There are thus quite a few people still using these older OSes (and as a result being a serious danger to us all, as their computers are way too easily zombified if they hook up to the Internet). They simply cannot upgrade to IE7, let alone IE9, without also upgrading their OS and in many cases buying a whole new computer.

And no, making a version of IE9 that can work on those older OSes is out of the question. There are core capabilities of the newer OSes that IE 7 and up absolutely require in order to work, which are not present on nor addable to the older OSes.

Windows 7 is a wonderful OS (especially for being a pre-SP), but too many got burned with previous pre-SP versions of Windows, and are likely waiting for at least Service Pack 1 before upgrading, perhaps even from Windows 2000 (or even NT4 SP6 in some cases!).

On another subject: I heard a rumor that IE9 will not be using the Trident layout engine at all, but that it’s a whole new engine even more secure than OP. Is this true, or are they saving that for IE10 or some future product?

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By: Nick http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76757 Nick Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:31:01 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76757 I had no idea they were offering a beta for IE9. Thanks! I had no idea they were offering a beta for IE9. Thanks!

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By: Erfahrungen http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76749 Erfahrungen Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:39:31 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76749 It really looks as it will be the first IE release where Microsoft will really support internet standards. ;-) I will try some CSS testings with the new preview versions. I am excited about the results. It really looks as it will be the first IE release where Microsoft will really support internet standards. ;-)

I will try some CSS testings with the new preview versions. I am excited about the results.

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By: عشقان http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76748 عشقان Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:40:44 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76748 Looking good all around. I'm glad to hear them pining for HTML5 the same way Web developers are. Looking good all around. I’m glad to hear them pining for HTML5 the same way Web developers are.

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By: Gutschein http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76746 Gutschein Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:01:17 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76746 Very nice, I'm using firefox, but this could be the return of IE. Very nice, I’m using firefox, but this could be the return of IE.

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By: Daniel Backer http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76739 Daniel Backer Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:19:38 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76739 IE9 is going to be awesome, this platform preview is just the very beginning. IE9 is going to be awesome, this platform preview is just the very beginning.

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By: Windows 7 Insider » Blog Archive » HTML5, Modernized: Fourth IE9 Platform Preview Available for Developers http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76736 Windows 7 Insider » Blog Archive » HTML5, Modernized: Fourth IE9 Platform Preview Available for Developers Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:06:44 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76736 [...] IE9, we have worked much more closely with the developer community. Developers have had an earlier (and more frequently updated) look at the platform. With that early engagement, developer feedback [...] [...] IE9, we have worked much more closely with the developer community. Developers have had an earlier (and more frequently updated) look at the platform. With that early engagement, developer feedback [...]

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By: Oldtimer http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76730 Oldtimer Fri, 20 Aug 2010 06:26:11 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76730 the IE 8 was disatar i hope the IE 9 is much better. the IE 8 was disatar i hope the IE 9 is much better.

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By: DavidJCobb http://www.webstandards.org/2010/06/28/ie9-looks-reall-promising/comment-page-1/#comment-76721 DavidJCobb Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:59:26 +0000 http://www.webstandards.org/?p=1931#comment-76721 Useless, useless, useless. The number of people who won't -- or CAN'T -- upgrade to Vista or Windows 7 is still shockingly high. I myself am part of that group. Unless Microsoft changes their mind and makes IE9 compatible with Windows XP -- and I very highly doubt they will do so -- IE9 will change almost nothing, because a very large number of people will be stuck using -- and coding for -- older versions. Worse yet is the fact that many developers can't test their sites in IE9 simply because they can't run it. Considering Microsoft's dreadful history of crashes and security issues (both often being caused by the most appallingly stupid of mistakes), this is a very serious problem. Useless, useless, useless.

The number of people who won’t — or CAN’T — upgrade to Vista or Windows 7 is still shockingly high. I myself am part of that group. Unless Microsoft changes their mind and makes IE9 compatible with Windows XP — and I very highly doubt they will do so — IE9 will change almost nothing, because a very large number of people will be stuck using — and coding for — older versions.

Worse yet is the fact that many developers can’t test their sites in IE9 simply because they can’t run it. Considering Microsoft’s dreadful history of crashes and security issues (both often being caused by the most appallingly stupid of mistakes), this is a very serious problem.

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